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13 Mar 2023 12:37 #134372
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To bring this back to the top of the list, the portal is now open to apply for the £200 alternative fuels subsidy. This is separate, and in addition to the EBSS.
The link is here: www.gov.uk/apply-alternative-fuel-bill-support-if-not-automatic
As with the EBSS, only those in permanent residential moorings are eligible.
The link is here: www.gov.uk/apply-alternative-fuel-bill-support-if-not-automatic
As with the EBSS, only those in permanent residential moorings are eligible.
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25 Feb 2023 08:35 #134111
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The portal to apply for the £400 energy subsidy for off grid homes (such as permanently moored houseboats) is now open:https://www.gov.uk/apply-energy-bill-support-if-not-automatic
BBC story here: www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64760411
BBC story here: www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64760411
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06 Feb 2023 06:46 #133813
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As noted, only limited applicability now, but come 27 Feb, this will be the link to apply:
www.gov.uk/apply-energy-bill-support-if-not-automatic
www.gov.uk/apply-energy-bill-support-if-not-automatic
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26 Jan 2023 18:10 #133670
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Comments on Yesterday in Parliament re the 'Energy relief scheme' ( mentioned marina dwellers amonst others,) where the minister Graham Stewart said applications generally now delayed until February 27th. Listen on BBC sounds from about 23:36 last night, Lib Dems in particular voicing their frustration,
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19 Jan 2023 14:08 #133577
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Wow,
Thank you for this. Seems like a process that still has much left to resolve! Much appreciated.
Rob
Thank you for this. Seems like a process that still has much left to resolve! Much appreciated.
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19 Jan 2023 11:16 #133575
by Andy Soper
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Update - Trial scheme may be launched in Wrexham, Chichester, Glasgow and West Sussex.
More details below:NBTA Advice on Applications for
the Energy Bills Support Scheme - Alternative Funding (EBSS-AF)
and
Alternative Fuel Payment (AFP)
INTERIM UPDATE
The Energy Bills Support Scheme - Alternative Funding (EBSS-AF) system may go live this week in the pilot areas of Wrexham, Chichester, Glasgow and West Sussex, with a full nationwide roll-out anticipated before mid-February.
At this stage, applications (which are made on gov.uk and approved applications forwarded to the Local Authority) require a name, address and bank details, with the address needing to both match the bank account AND be cross-referenced against a Meter Point Administration Number (MPAN) which will be for a house, not an itinerant household. As a result, all applications by itinerants, including itinerant liveaboard boaters, will automatically fail.
However, following NBTA negotiations with the Deputy Director General at the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy (BEIS), a work-around has been agreed (but now with a qualification). Itinerant boaters currently moored in the relevant pilot areas are encouraged to make the application using the gov.uk page, then take a screenshot of the fail notice. There is a BEIS helpline for those who cannot get online or otherwise have difficulties filling in the online form. Both this number and the gov.uk application page will be made available in an update when the pilot scheme finally goes live (we will update you again when that happens).
Applicants must then send the fail notice screenshot to the pilot scheme local authority where they are currently moored as an application for the Household Support Fund (HSF) Grant (England), Scotland Welfare Fund (SWF) Grant (Scotland) and Discretionary Assistance Find (DAF) Grant (Wales). Applicants should identify themselves as an ‘itinerant boat dweller applying for (and rejected) EBSS-AF / AFP’. Applicants are reminded that they must only apply in this manner once, to one local authority. Government guidance has been given to local authorities nationwide that the HSF Grants are to be paid to eligible EBSS-AF / AFP applicants who fail the current EBSS-AF application system. The difficulty with this work-around is that HSF, SWF and DAF are all essentially depleted and there is no clarity yet in relation to their replenishing.
In order to establish the workability of this proposed fix, the NBTA encourages boaters in the pilot scheme areas to go through this process, seeking further advice fromThis email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. if required. The NBTA also requests that applicants take both screen shots and notes of the whole process (including applying to the local authority) and return these to the NBTA using the above email address.
Itinerant boaters who use diesel, coal, bottled gas or wood for heating are also entitled to the Alternative Fuel Payment (AFP) - £200 in addition to the £400 from the EBSS-AF. Since the AFP payment is currently designed around an additional declaration on the EBSS-AF application, itinerant boater applicants in the pilot scheme areas are encouraged to request the AFP equivalent (if eligible) as a part of their application for HSF, SWF or DAF citing their use of relevant alternative fuels.
The NBTA is continuing to work with BEIS for a more direct solution to this ongoing problem, with the demand that changes be made to both the EBSS-AF and AFP by the time the system goes live nationwide. We will share further information as and when it is established, and will continue to fight to ensure that our rightly concerned community are offered the same support as those that live on land in the midst of this cost-of-living crisis.
Despite ongoing negotiations and the agreed work-arounds the government has currently still failed to design a system for extending either the EBSS-AF or AFP to itinerant communities, including itinerant boaters. The NBTA will give further updates in the next few days as and when - or if - the arrangements enabling itinerant households to claim their grants are finally sorted out by BEIS.
More details below:NBTA Advice on Applications for
the Energy Bills Support Scheme - Alternative Funding (EBSS-AF)
and
Alternative Fuel Payment (AFP)
INTERIM UPDATE
The Energy Bills Support Scheme - Alternative Funding (EBSS-AF) system may go live this week in the pilot areas of Wrexham, Chichester, Glasgow and West Sussex, with a full nationwide roll-out anticipated before mid-February.
At this stage, applications (which are made on gov.uk and approved applications forwarded to the Local Authority) require a name, address and bank details, with the address needing to both match the bank account AND be cross-referenced against a Meter Point Administration Number (MPAN) which will be for a house, not an itinerant household. As a result, all applications by itinerants, including itinerant liveaboard boaters, will automatically fail.
However, following NBTA negotiations with the Deputy Director General at the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy (BEIS), a work-around has been agreed (but now with a qualification). Itinerant boaters currently moored in the relevant pilot areas are encouraged to make the application using the gov.uk page, then take a screenshot of the fail notice. There is a BEIS helpline for those who cannot get online or otherwise have difficulties filling in the online form. Both this number and the gov.uk application page will be made available in an update when the pilot scheme finally goes live (we will update you again when that happens).
Applicants must then send the fail notice screenshot to the pilot scheme local authority where they are currently moored as an application for the Household Support Fund (HSF) Grant (England), Scotland Welfare Fund (SWF) Grant (Scotland) and Discretionary Assistance Find (DAF) Grant (Wales). Applicants should identify themselves as an ‘itinerant boat dweller applying for (and rejected) EBSS-AF / AFP’. Applicants are reminded that they must only apply in this manner once, to one local authority. Government guidance has been given to local authorities nationwide that the HSF Grants are to be paid to eligible EBSS-AF / AFP applicants who fail the current EBSS-AF application system. The difficulty with this work-around is that HSF, SWF and DAF are all essentially depleted and there is no clarity yet in relation to their replenishing.
In order to establish the workability of this proposed fix, the NBTA encourages boaters in the pilot scheme areas to go through this process, seeking further advice from
Itinerant boaters who use diesel, coal, bottled gas or wood for heating are also entitled to the Alternative Fuel Payment (AFP) - £200 in addition to the £400 from the EBSS-AF. Since the AFP payment is currently designed around an additional declaration on the EBSS-AF application, itinerant boater applicants in the pilot scheme areas are encouraged to request the AFP equivalent (if eligible) as a part of their application for HSF, SWF or DAF citing their use of relevant alternative fuels.
The NBTA is continuing to work with BEIS for a more direct solution to this ongoing problem, with the demand that changes be made to both the EBSS-AF and AFP by the time the system goes live nationwide. We will share further information as and when it is established, and will continue to fight to ensure that our rightly concerned community are offered the same support as those that live on land in the midst of this cost-of-living crisis.
Despite ongoing negotiations and the agreed work-arounds the government has currently still failed to design a system for extending either the EBSS-AF or AFP to itinerant communities, including itinerant boaters. The NBTA will give further updates in the next few days as and when - or if - the arrangements enabling itinerant households to claim their grants are finally sorted out by BEIS.
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Andy Soper
DBA Director Representation and Treasurer
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Coookham
0044 (0) 303 666 0636
You don't need a barge to join - a dream of boating in Europe will do'. See www.barges.org
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20 Dec 2022 22:25 #133333
by Andy Soper
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Replied by Andy Soper on topic Energy Bills Support Scheme (EBSS)
No new detail but confirmation that off-grid or mooring and marina residents will have to apply in January 2023 via the gov.uk website.
www.gov.uk/government/news/vital-help-wi...and-northern-ireland
Payments will be made through Local Authorities
Keep your fuel purchase receipts, mooring fee receipts and anything else to prove your locality.
Merry Christmas!
www.gov.uk/government/news/vital-help-wi...and-northern-ireland
Payments will be made through Local Authorities
Keep your fuel purchase receipts, mooring fee receipts and anything else to prove your locality.
Merry Christmas!
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13 Dec 2022 21:40 #133238
by Andy Soper
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Energy Bills Support Scheme (EBSS) was created by Andy Soper
If you are currently on your own electrical shore supply you will be receiving £66 per month in government subsidy until next April.
If you are peripatetic, 'continously cruising', or getting electricity from a marina or shared supply you will not be getting any support.
The government department BEIS is rushing through a scheme to ensure that all households - including live aboard boaters - will get a similar £400 grant from their Local Authority. The scheme is planned to go live in Jan 2023.
The requirements to claim the grant are not yet clear - we are working with the National Bargee Travellers Association (under their umbrella organisation Friends, Families and Travellers (FFT) to develop suitable identity (at worst driving licenrice)and benefit documentation (less i more!)
If you are peripatetic, 'continously cruising', or getting electricity from a marina or shared supply you will not be getting any support.
The government department BEIS is rushing through a scheme to ensure that all households - including live aboard boaters - will get a similar £400 grant from their Local Authority. The scheme is planned to go live in Jan 2023.
The requirements to claim the grant are not yet clear - we are working with the National Bargee Travellers Association (under their umbrella organisation Friends, Families and Travellers (FFT) to develop suitable identity (at worst driving licenrice)and benefit documentation (less i more!)
Best Wishes
Andy Soper
DBA Director Representation and Treasurer
mv Neeltje
Coookham
0044 (0) 303 666 0636
You don't need a barge to join - a dream of boating in Europe will do'. See www.barges.org
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