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Barge Insurance in the Netherlands for American

  • David Saunders
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17 Feb 2024 19:59 #1 by David Saunders
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Thanks Guys, I'm going to try Velos on Monday. I'll let everyone know how I get on.

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  • Don Chesnut
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17 Feb 2024 01:53 #2 by Don Chesnut
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Hi David,

US resident, French flagged dutch barge currently in the south of France also booted by HKJ.
I got quotes from Offshore Risk Management (very expensive), DNA (current survey is too old) and Velos Insurance  Insurance@velosgroup.co.uk . I also got a reply from Topsail but they were in the same situation as HKJ. They did tell me that they were working on a solution for Americans and would contact me if they were able to work something out. I never got any assistance from HKJ other than a nice note when my coverage expired telling me they would like to welcome me back 🙄. I went with Velos as their price was not a huge increase over what I paid last year. They are a broker and they work through an affiliate in Greece, similar to what HKJ was supposed to do with an Irish subsidiary. I don't know what happened to that...

Don

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  • Rob Davidson
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16 Feb 2024 21:04 #3 by Rob Davidson
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I got cover for my US registered Cruiser Here:
Laura Lindstrom-Croop
INTERNATIONAL WATERS INS. SERVICES
411 Walnut Street #14847,  Green Cove Springs, FL 32043
Website: www.MarineInsurance.cc   | e-mail: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. 

Rob DaviDson - ARMIDA

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  • Chris Green
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16 Feb 2024 19:31 #4 by Chris Green
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We are British and have what was for several years a Belgian
registered boat.  We are memebers of the ANPEI and our boat has been
insured via them for several years now.  So, hopefully, it should work
for you too I think.

There is an issue at the moment in that the current ANPEI insurers
(AXA I think) are withdrawing from the business so the ANPEI are
actively seeking alternative insurers.  I think the changeover will be
from 1st April this year.

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Chris Green

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  • Sharon Hammond
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16 Feb 2024 18:22 #5 by Sharon Hammond
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Hi David,

I think you are not getting any response because USA folks are having trouble finding an answer that works! Are you also USCG registered? We are, live in CA and have been dumped by HJK, turned down by one company (Mariners I think) and have requests out to Bluewater Yacht (who did cover us for a year back in 2020) and to Cap Marine, who partner with ANPEI to offer insurance to ANPEI members.  We jsut joined ANPEI at the moderate cost of about 70 euros.  Well worth it if they can provide the insurance.  The contact person is on vacation til the 18th, so we sit chewing fingernails, nervously. 

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  • David Saunders
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14 Feb 2024 20:21 #6 by David Saunders
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I'm relatively new to DBA, my wife and I joined last year. We own a Linssen 33.9 and keep it in Auxerre, in the shed during winter months. We live in Alabama USA. 
I found out today that my Insurance with HKJ will not be renewed in April. I'm grateful for Balliol's report, very helpful. I'm writing now to ask any members for fresh insight as to how we can insure our boat?
Regards to all
David Saunders

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  • Douglas Jaarsma
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12 Dec 2023 02:43 #7 by Douglas Jaarsma
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After many emails to various brokers / insurance companies; I was finally able to secure insurance for Barge Janine.

It is a bit pricier than Dutch and British Companies that i have had in the past, but clears the thought of selling the barge.

I was accepted through broker "Offshore Risk Management".  They are a broker out of Florida.

Dutch Barge Janine: 19.95m x 4.25m; 130hp John Deere Marine Diesel; Kohler Quiet Generator,
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  • Michael Martin
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17 Nov 2023 03:16 #8 by Michael Martin
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PM me. Fellow American with something to add. 

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  • Andy Soper
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06 Nov 2023 18:24 #9 by Andy Soper
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HKJ have replied to me today.  As expected the issue with offering insurance to US Residents is 
a restriction imposed by their re-insurers whom they are currently in further discussion with.

Paul Knox-Johnston wrote:

'The American thing we were still challenging internally and had not received the final decision when Ilast  emailed you. It is frustrating for us all as we realise that this was important to you and your members.
 
There will be some further tweaks to the general wording coming down the line with a more lengthy amendment on the topic of lithium batteries. We are working with our insurers at the moment getting the wording for Lithium batteries in place and are running a useful webinar on this very subject on the 23rd November in the evening. Please feel free to share the below to members.
 
us06web.zoom.us/webinar/register/5416986...C2VDlKTcmTEFGXt9Ulkw
 
We will be sure to share all future changes with you and your members as soon as they have been finalised.'

I will report on the Lithium Battery issue and any other insurance limitations when they have confirmed their wording.

The UK Institution of Engineering and Technology  will be publishing their  On-Board Guide : Electrical Safety for Small Craft  later this month.  
and includes an extensive chapter on batteries

Best Wishes
Andy Soper
DBA Director Representation and Treasurer
mv Neeltje
Cookham
0044 (0) 7940598364

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  • Balliol Fowden
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27 Oct 2023 18:51 #10 by Balliol Fowden
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It is interesting that there is a linkage Global = Great Lakes = Munich Re = GJW !?

Balliol.

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