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Travelling from Namur, then along the Meuse 20 Jul 2022 12:46 #130736

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Hi Stuart,

see my earlier posts on the Ardennes but it is certainly open with plenty of water below le Chesne. We are now almost through to the end of the canal and can heartily recommend it. And it does provide a route south!

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Travelling from Namur, then along the Meuse 19 Jul 2022 18:38 #130727

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Hi Stuart. If you are far enough downstream on the Meuse now and you can reach Pont a Bar, you can take the Canal des Ardennes down to the upper Aisne and then down to Verry au Bac and on to the Aisne a la Marne. Take that to Reims.
Ian is correct that there is a closure - length of time not known - on the Aisne a la Marne but that is on the Conde sur Marne end, not the Berry au Bac end, so you should be OK to Reims. I would do it as quickly as possible though, as the Ardennes has already been closed once their yearnfor insufficient water.
If you have not been to the halte nautique in Reims - it isn't lovely. Great location for seeing the city but it is open to anyone and everyone walking by, and there is a large traffic bridge practically overhead,. OK for a couple nights, but for a long stay many go on down to Sillery. There are some banks people do moor on, though we have not, farther down towards the Reims locks, but no services there.

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Travelling from Namur, then along the Meuse 19 Jul 2022 17:47 #130722

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Not much chance Stuart,

1) Today the closure of the Aisne a la Marne was announced (Avis FR/2022/04276) because of a risk of a breach between locks 23 and 24. No end date forecast. This is just north of the junction with the Canal lateral a la Marne. It's a long detour even if (2) wasn't an issue.

2) The Marne ou Rhine (West) is closed from Ecluse 35 (la Grande Chalide), east of Bar-le-Duc to Toul (Avis FR/2022/04093).

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Travelling from Namur, then along the Meuse 19 Jul 2022 16:59 #130718

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Hello this is Stuart who was hoping to get to Toul. We were given a telephone number by VNFwhere I spoke to a very helpful person who was able to check his computer screens and confirm that there is closure between Commercy and Troussey due to lack of water. the number is 0033329876168. I hope this helps.
We are now hoping th change route and take the Canal des Ardennes and then the Canal de la Marne to Reims. We have a draft of 1.1 metres and air draft of 3.3 metres with canopy down. Any further updates greatly appreciated.
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Travelling from Namur, then along the Meuse 28 Jun 2022 22:44 #130354

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There is a drive up fuel dock available at Pont au Bar. That is through the first 2 locks on the Canal des Ardennes - they are a very very short distance apart. The fuel dock is at the Services Pont au Bar, which is a chandlery, fuel; dock and boat repair yard, plus they do pleasure baot rentals. Nice folks and the prices were in line with other sources. We filled up there and then did a top off in Verdun. Actually we were parked at the pontoon at Belleville sur Meuse and there is both an Intermarche and an Esso station within a 10 minute walk, for the jerry can on the dolly run. WE were being conservative and didn't add all that much. We could have gone all the way to Toul I am sure.
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Travelling from Namur, then along the Meuse 28 Jun 2022 21:24 #130352

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In regards to the shortage of available fuel. We found the VNF to be a good source and we were able to have a fuel delivery made by a local fuel delivery company that they knew about. However, for us, this was while on the Rhone au Rhine. Too bad you are so far south, I just added a fuel supplier that I used today here in Maasbracht, 1.99 euros per liter for white diesel.
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Travelling from Namur, then along the Meuse 28 Jun 2022 19:52 #130351

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The consensus in the marina, where it exists, is that the route directly to Nancy via the Canal de la Meuse is possibly ok but the Canal des Ardennes is not passable due to weed. All of this is second hand information.

Fortunately for DBA Members there are frequent first-hand reports in the Waterways Guide and in the Forum Stoppages, etc section. Please keep the updates coming as they seem to be very important.
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Travelling from Namur, then along the Meuse 28 Jun 2022 19:44 #130350

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We are currently in Dun sur Meuse, no problems other than on short stretch on the canal de la Meuse below us, other than that fantastic trip. We were going to turn around now to head down the Ardennes but.... Last year Ardennes was grand until you got to the bottom so hopefully it is all hearsay.

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Travelling from Namur, then along the Meuse 28 Jun 2022 19:27 #130349

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We are also in Namur today and heading south to Nancy. At the moment the marina at Jambe is all buzz and questions about what is possible in france. The consensus in the marina, where it exists, is that the route directly to Nancy via the Canal de la Meuse is possibly ok but the Canal des Ardennes is not passable due to weed. All of this is second hand information.

In terms of what to be concerned about the issues are weed and water levels. Also try to get fuel somewhere as the sources of diesel fuel seem to be pretty thin as we go south. a lot of boats in the marina in Namur are running low and while there are fuel stations to the north, down the meuse, heading upriver there seems to be a risk of running out and ending up ferrying jerry cans by bicycle or rental car. I spent the day buting what seemed to be the last jerrycan in Namur. Weeds, low water and no fuel seems to be part of the french canal experience these days.

Also keep an eye on the weekly VNF Avis report as a lot of the canals are grouping boats into convoys now to save water.

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Travelling from Namur, then along the Meuse 28 Jun 2022 18:43 #130348

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Stuart - Welcome to the forum.

Namur to Nancy via Toul according to PC Navigo 372 km, 91 locks, but probably most usefully in estimating how long the journey will take, allow 78 engine hours. This is based on 10 km/h max speed (lower in places with lower speed limits) and includes average locking times. Use this to estimate the number of days needed by your average hours per day.

I did this journey in 2019 with no difficulty, although water levels and the weed situation towards your destination needs keeping advised about. I'm told all is OK right now as there's been quite a bit of rain in this area recently.

Wintering possible at Marina Port De France in Toul. There's also a new facility on the Moselle north of Nancy - I could look out details if you need them. Have you visited the DBA Waterways Guide yet? It's found under Knowledge Base and you can find wintering places by choosing the country, ticking the Wintering Possible box and see results on the map, or listed by waterway. You'll also find this useful for fuel places, overnight mooring, boatyard facilities, etcs. Alternatively try to get a copy of Fluvial Le Guide, though I'm not sure if this is still available since Fluvial went bust!

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Travelling from Namur, then along the Meuse 28 Jun 2022 14:16 #130344

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Travelling from Namur, then along the Meuse 28 Jun 2022 13:18 #130343

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We are planning a trip from Namur along the Meuse heading for Toul and Nancy.
Please can anyone give us an idea of the time to allow, cruising steadily to take this route? Are there any issues we should be aware of?
Also can anyone reccommend a safe place to winter our boat in the Toul / Nancy area ?
All help greatfully received.
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