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TOPIC: Registration number size

Registration number size 18 Sep 2020 16:34 #118573

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Registration number size 18 Sep 2020 14:59 #118570

For the record: the Belgian authorities did assume they could make all boats over 20 metres use letters and numbers of 20 cms for ENI, name, home port,...
But I just checked and they have now added “recommended” between brackets to those regulations.
Making it yet again a typical case of shoddy Belgian legislation formulated so badly it can be challenged.
And yes Pete M, we know our 20 cms name, ENI and home port on the stern looks AWFUL 😂

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Registration number size 18 Sep 2020 01:14 #118566

> for example my ssr number is correct at about 30mm high letters for UK rules

I was surprised at how ridiculously small the SSR number is required to be. My numbers are about 60 mm high and so can be read by lock keepers or others if required. The number should be displayed prominently - I understand this to be black letter on white superstructure or similar and not obstructed from being read.. Even at 60 mm this is far smaller than other countries require their vessels to be labelled, but as far as I understand it, you only need to meet your country of registration's regulations regarding size and port of registry - none required on SSR.

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Registration number size 18 Sep 2020 00:57 #118565

Hi Cliff

For France I think the sizes change around 15 meters.
www.legifrance.gouv.fr/loda/id/LEGITEXT000021310074/2020-09-17/
Article 21
Ia anyone aware of more recent legislation?

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Registration number size 17 Sep 2020 23:24 #118564

If it's of any use (or relevance!) in France it's 100mm on the stern. I have a small inkling that this is for craft upto a certain size... or below a certain size... not sure. Either way round I believe it is the size for craft of the 5 - 30 metre size .

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Registration number size 17 Sep 2020 22:29 #118563

Les Easom wrote: I have read this and the previous conversation and am still no wiser.

Join the club! In practice Belgoum can't impose this on visitors. For my Flemish vignette, the had to accept that my <20m Dutch boat had no registration (as it's not required in Holland.
A name on the stern is useful for folliwing boats to call you on VHF but many small boats have no spave for 20cm! It even looks ridiculous on 20m+ barges!
The home port is interesting. Why would we have one? I think it's historical and irrelevant now. Why a country letter, when the UK doesn't have one - and it should be indicated by the Ensign.
While I hate to suggest ignoring a regulation, this is one I will not be trying to meet to the letter!

Pete
Belgium

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Registration number size 17 Sep 2020 21:45 #118562

I have read this and the previous conversation and am still no wiser.
We have the boat name both sides of the bows, nothing on the stern, and I do not remember the size. The first letter may be 20cm but I suspect not the rest of the name.
We have no home port.
Our SSR number is displayed in the size the RYA specify on boards fastened inside both side windows of the wheelhouse.

Does the above mean that we need to make changes before we start moving north towards Holland, next year?

What is a RYA 140 series number?

Les

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Registration number size 17 Sep 2020 20:48 #118560

Pete Milne wrote: Check the conversation here.
Though it nominally applies to non-belgium boats, it is actually impractical for some to implement to spec, e.g. mane & home port 20cm high on the stern, with a nationality letter (the UK has none!), etc.

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Registration number size 17 Sep 2020 20:46 #118559

Check the conversation here.
Though it nominally applies to non-belgium boats, it is actually impractical for some to implement to spec, e.g. mane & home port 20cm high on the stern, with a nationality letter (the UK has none!), etc.

 Pete

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Registration number size 17 Sep 2020 16:46 #118550

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I heard a third hand story so may well have got garbled about boaters in Belgium being fined for having incorrect size letters on their registration number. What wasn't so clear was whether this was just Belgian registered boats or foreign registrations too, for example my ssr number is correct at about 30mm high letters for UK rules but the Belgian size is 100mm tall. Can anyone confirm or deny.

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