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TOPIC: Marina in mid/south of France

Marina in mid/south of France 05 Oct 2020 16:51 #118953

Last time I was there (a few years ago) the outside pontoon(s) at Condrieu were very lively from passing commercials.

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Marina in mid/south of France 03 Oct 2020 14:57 #118896

Robert Thomas wrote: When I was in SJdL in early August, they had cut a lot of weed in the centre if the basin but obviously the individual moorings still had quite a bit. Just be aware and take it easy not to lose prop thrust or rudder.


Weed cutting is ongoing, a lot has been achieved since August, the purpose built new machine is working well. Empty Individual berths are cleared ready for new arrivals.

The weed only grows where light can reach it, so directly under boats and pontoons are clear.

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Marina in mid/south of France 03 Oct 2020 10:29 #118895

I have been in Roches de Condrieu and Valence last August and can confirm that the Condrieu marina is a lot nicer!

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Marina in mid/south of France 27 Sep 2020 15:20 #118780

Tam, I wonder if this still belongs to the Cote de Roti wine area. I stopped at the pontoon at Ampuis a few kms upstream from Condrieu, just below Vienne, once and picked up some really good Cote de Roti reds.
Another tip is the Hotel / Restaurant Bellevue, right next to the marina at Condrieu. Fantastic food and wines with a view over The Rhone.

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Marina in mid/south of France 27 Sep 2020 15:14 #118779

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Sounds like fun! I'll be on my toes anyway.

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Marina in mid/south of France 27 Sep 2020 15:08 #118778

When I was in SJdL in early August, they had cut a lot of weed in the centre if the basin but obviously the individual moorings still had quite a bit. Just be aware and take it easy not to lose prop thrust or rudder.

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Marina in mid/south of France 27 Sep 2020 14:43 #118777

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Thanks!
I’ve signed up for the foreseeable future but will probably head further south eventually.
Yes I heard it was weedy but heigh ho!

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Marina in mid/south of France 27 Sep 2020 14:23 #118776

The wines there are pretty damn good too. Condrieu and the minute Château Grillet were in the 80s the last strongholds of the delicious Viognier grape which has now been taken up widely (even in Australia apparently ;-) )

Tam
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Marina in mid/south of France 27 Sep 2020 14:07 #118775

Shaun, realize that you‘ve opted for H2O at SJdL, bit weedy but ok, I am in Auxonne at H2O there and it‘s very good with a good community ......and no weeds.
Anyway, as it has not been mentioned in this thread and just for the record, there is a good marina at Roches de Condrieu, south of Lyon on the Rhone but nowhere near as far south as Valance.
There are some liveaboards at Condrieu and personally I find the marina a lot nicer there than at Valance although the train connections are not as good as Valance.
Just for the record.

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Marina in mid/south of France 27 Sep 2020 11:17 #118767

Hi Shaun
Yes I noted the website is not working
Avisbat still working though for searching if you get past the old perl based logon .

try
www.vnf.fr/avisbat/RechercheAvisWebAction.do?page=RechercheAvis

cheers
Chris
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Marina in mid/south of France 27 Sep 2020 10:57 #118765

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Thanks Chris!
The urgency is all because of bloody Brexit! Idiotic people!
My saving grace is my Irish passport which should be with me soon but I need to get to my home mooring to start the registration process, register a french business, pay some taxes and cotisations and get a carte vitale.
I've already booked the H2O mooring in St Jean because they were the only ones who replied to me who had a vacancy!
Anyway, let's think positive! I live in Cardiff and we are in lockdown from tomorrow for goodness knows how long! hopefully just a few weeks!

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Marina in mid/south of France 27 Sep 2020 10:53 #118764

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unfortunately VNF website seems to be unavailable today but thanks!

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Marina in mid/south of France 27 Sep 2020 10:47 #118763

Have you checked the VNF website for planned chomages on your route this autumn and also signed up for Avis de Battellerie by email , which will fill your inbox!! Again for the regions that your route goes through??
Good luck with the trip.
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Marina in mid/south of France 27 Sep 2020 10:39 #118762

Hi Shaun

15 year in Pyrenees! Not jealous! Only just seen them at ground level last year for first time, still not had a rental cat to reach them.

I have not done that trip but would have thought 2 months should be enough time to reach SJDL in your nice looking cruiser. We have a few local members who head the opposite way each winter.

I do not think water will be an issue but weather could be a little inclement and canal closures for maintenance or good could limit your options..

COVID 19 may be more of an issue. Getting stuck in northern France would not be all bad reading submissions from members, we have been on the Sarre in a rental and thought that was pretty good.

Alas I am still in Oz, getting back within a year or two may well depend on a successful and available vaccine. Our boat is staying in Castelsarrasin on lateral of Garonne. Boat has been in JY Cousteau marina/town PdP, lovely helpful neighbours and capitainerie. We are moving to Chantier Fluvial yard on dry. with Sébastien once weather breaks.

Enjoy your adventure!

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Our boat is staying in Castelsarrasin on lateral of Garonne. Boat has been in JY Cousteau marina (town PdP, lovely helpful neighbours and capitainerie. We are moving to Chantier Fluvial yard on dry. with Sébastien once weather breaks.

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Marina in mid/south of France 27 Sep 2020 06:52 #118760

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Thank you Chris

Excellent information!
I am actually headed to the Garonne eventually!
My French is good. I lived in the Pyrenees for 15 years.

I booked a marina with H2O on the Saone.
My only issue is will I be able to get there in November from Holland! I just posted this question.

Any ideas?

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Marina in mid/south of France 14 Sep 2020 09:34 #118492

Also Pont de Vaux - a flood-free port on the river Reyssouze off the Saône at Fleurville, about 13km north of Mâcon. A small town with all services and an excellent wednesday market.

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Marina in mid/south of France 14 Sep 2020 09:06 #118490

Hi Rob

Much has been written on ports over the years.

H20 also run a port in Auxonne.

Joel Blanquart at Saint Jean de Losne have livabords as well as H2O.

Port de Plaisance atMacon, two days south of SJdL is a good port, flood proof, though the water supply is seasonable, the winter mooerers have to run hoses quite a distance, though this is normal throughput central France because of freezing.

You could also try Chalon Sur Saone, Core, and Port Sur Saone.

Paul Hayes
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Marina in mid/south of France 14 Sep 2020 09:05 #118489

Hi Shaun

Issues:

How good is your French? I assume good.
I assume you have your own transport cos most of the good marinas are a pain to get to without! Takes us most of day to get to boat from CdG.
New boat likely to need some work too so maybe plan to have engineer available for boat.
How long/deep is the Pedro?
Finally how secure do you want your boat?

Try searching posts when you cannot find what you need in KB. Unlikely anyone will have bothered to record attestations there, which you will likely need. and most of us forget/reluctant to record our experiences with engineers.

Assuming north south east route:
cannot comment north of Auxonne but many seem to stay at
H2O will be accommodating for residency, (attestation) speak reasonable english. *
Blanquarts (SJDL) very good but French would be helpful. Very secure, good rep engineering ***
Pont de Vaux -just off Saone. french helpful but good and cheaper also has good engieering. not secure . Engineering was excellent but not cheap. Hard to get to, use Macon and local bus/taxi if no transport. Depth can be an issue as it silts up a bit**
Macon - likely does not need french, about same price as H2O (ie exxy) but good location on Saone, engineering and likely has good residency support. Very secure. One of the few with a reasonable chandlery. *** Has TGV station out of town. Does do direct route to airport twice a day.

Further south, there is one large marina below Lyon on rhone that the locals use a lot at Valence/Port d'Epiervière. Convenient if heading south of course but quite a hike from Holland. Cannot comment on engineering but has 400 berths and looked a serious marina as we passed.

Then long way south to Rhone à Sète or midi and many locations without engineering and security limited/non existent. Nice towns and moorings generally. Toulouse of course has VNF marina, quite small but engineering in city available. Very secure. Just east of Toulouse (suburb really) is Ramonville/Port St Agne, lots of space. Engineering opposite (Port Sud), facilities for DIY IIRC. TGV and airport with Eu connections for both.

I assume Garonne too far..

Good luck
Let us know how you get on
Chris
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Marina in mid/south of France 14 Sep 2020 09:05 #118488

Hi Shaun

Issues:

How good is your French? I assume good.
I assume you have your own transport cos most of the good marinas are a pain to get to without! Takes us most of day to get to boat from CdG.
New boat likely to need some work too so maybe plan to have engineer available for boat.
How long/deep is the Pedro?
Finally how secure do you want your boat?

Try searching posts when you cannot find what you need in KB. Unlikely anyone will have bothered to record attestations there, which you will likely need. and most of us forget/reluctant to record our experiences with engineers.

Assuming north south east route:
cannot comment north of Auxonne but many seem to stay at
H2O will be accommodating for residency, (attestation) speak reasonable english. *
Blanquarts (SJDL) very good but French would be helpful. Very secure, good rep engineering ***
Pont de Vaux -just off Saone. french helpful but good and cheaper also has good engieering. not secure . Engineering was excellent but not cheap. Hard to get to, use Macon and local bus/taxi if no transport. Depth can be an issue as it silts up a bit**
Macon - likely does not need french, about same price as H2O (ie exxy) but good location on Saone, engineering and likely has good residency support. Very secure. One of the few with a reasonable chandlery. *** Has TGV station out of town. Does do direct route to airport twice a day.

Further south, there is one large marina below Lyon on rhone that the locals use a lot at Valence/Port d'Epiervière. Convenient if heading south of course but quite a hike from Holland. Cannot comment on engineering but has 400 berths and looked a serious marina as we passed.

Then long way south to Rhone à Sète or midi and many locations without engineering and security limited/non existent. Nice towns and moorings generally. Toulouse of course has VNF marina, quite small but engineering in city available. Very secure. Just east of Toulouse (suburb really) is Ramonville/Port St Agne, lots of space. Engineering opposite (Port Sud), facilities for DIY IIRC. TGV and airport with Eu connections for both.

I assume Garonne too far..

Good luck
Let us know how you get on
Chris

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Marina in mid/south of France 14 Sep 2020 08:19 #118487

You can also try Macon. A modern, well run, port and they used to have plenty of room.
www.port-de-plaisance.com/
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Marina in mid/south of France 14 Sep 2020 00:34 #118486

Big question Shaun. I recommend you look in the Knowledge Base under the Waterways Guide section - put in some filters and you'll get a good starting point to begin your quest. But get a move on! Many/most marinas will have had their winter bookings taken up some while ago. And be warned - in my experience they're not good at replying to email. Phone gets a better and quicker response. Bon chance.
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Marina in mid/south of France 13 Sep 2020 22:59 #118485

Hello Shaun,

I found a place for Lumacona in Port Minervois (Homps) on the Canal du Midi. Lovely village!

You can ask Mauricette Belfiore : This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
She is very kind and helpful.

Website with rates here: www.port-homps-jouarres.fr/harbour/?lang=en
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Marina in mid/south of France 13 Sep 2020 21:54 #118483

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Hi!
I've bought a Pedro cruiser in Holland and need to get to France before 31 December to begin the residency application and take advantage of the WA.
I'm looking for a marina because I will need a permanent address to apply.
I know of the two run by H2O and have emailed Castelnaudary but does anyone know of any others which I'll be able to reach in November?
Thanks!
Shaun

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