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New Canal des Ardennes closure 27 Aug 2022 21:37 #131580

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We have completed our trip through the Canal des Ardennes. We did not have a problem with depth, but did touch ground once before the lock in front of the St Aignan tunnel. We are 1.3m deep. We stopped in Le Chesne at the high point of the canal for almost two weeks while the VNF cleared weed from Locks 1-26. They did a good job but it was frustrating as we felt it was clear enough several days earlier. The remainder of the Canal des Ardennes from Semuy has a lot of weed and the same for the Canal lateral à l'Aisne. We were OK only needing a water filter clean each day but a boat we were travelling with had terrible trouble requiring getting into the water to untangle propellers and rudders.
The Canal de l'Aisne à la Marne is beautifully clear after all that.
It is very quiet, we have not passed another boat since entering the Canal des Ardennes at Pont à Bar
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New Canal des Ardennes closure 05 Aug 2022 17:53 #131024

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We are in Charleville-Mézières and went to the VNF office to ask about the Canal des Ardennes. The man there said they are "right now, pumping it full of water" and it will open again on 9/8 with more than sufficient water for our 1.3m. I do not know where the water is coming from; my French and his English could not combine to get that answer. He also called another office about the canal from Berry-au-Bac to Reims and told me they reported 2.0m depth along that route. So we will be trying this route from Tuesday. If anyone has heard differently I would be interested to know
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New Canal des Ardennes closure 09 Jul 2022 15:51 #130564

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Tim Cahill-O'Brien wrote: The VNF said that 10 days after the weed cutter is finished they have regrown back to how they were before... perhaps it is time for some hard decisions at the VNF. If they abandoned perhaps half the network, then they could focus their limited resources on the other half and there could be a few routes available. Though that would be a big loss, it would be better than losing the entire network ...


Slightly off topic, so no help to those currently navigating, but as the science and VNF's own trials on other waterways sections show, weed cutting on its own actually exacerbates the problem by creating weed fragments which partly regather at the same location and partly enter the water flows thus spreading farther afield. It needs (a) a combination of various methodologies, discussed elsewhere on the forum, and (b) greater targetted investment in combatting the weed problem at large. My hope would be that rather than the drastic solution Tim proposes VNF can, with the help of advances in science in this field, get on top of the weed problem.

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New Canal des Ardennes closure 09 Jul 2022 13:56 #130562

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Have just confirmed with the Capitinare at Ardennes Nautisme that the canal is open, hurrah! Down hill all the way now.

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New Canal des Ardennes closure 09 Jul 2022 12:07 #130556

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Good Morning

have not seen an Avis from the VNF confirming this, we passed the entrance heading north two days ago but if it is open we will turn arround and give it a try. Thought that it would be closed for the rest of the summer!!

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New Canal des Ardennes closure 09 Jul 2022 02:38 #130549

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This is great news. We are/were/are planning on travelling the Canal des Ardennes in mid-August. I have read the Avis and it does not provide any more information other than it is open and the depth limitation of 1.40m. Also the VNF site shows the Bairon reservoir feeding the Canal was empty (0%) as at June 1. My conclusion when it closed was that it would remain closed for the summer or until some very significant rain.

Does anyone know more about this, or have predictions from past experience on the likelihood of it remaining open?

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New Canal des Ardennes closure 08 Jul 2022 21:13 #130546

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Re-opens July 9, at 9:00a.m.
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New Canal des Ardennes closure 02 Jul 2022 11:07 #130427

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Good Morning

We are currently on the Meuse, can report that the water and weed levels are fine down as far as Dun sur Meuse. Yes there is one particularly weedy stretch between PK 138 and PK 147 but nothing to worry about. We have turned around northwards for non weed related issues, but last year the problems became worse after Verdun, again nothing that should overly concern you. The worst part is between Ecluse 3 and 1 which is by the cement works, before you go out on to the Marne et Rhine. This bit is a challenge.

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New Canal des Ardennes closure 02 Jul 2022 07:58 #130422

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Tim Cahill-O'Brien wrote: The article was about the canal de la meuse brom Belgium to Toul. The author did get there in the end and we will try to do the same.


Hi Tim are you on the Meuse yet ? Can I have a update on the condition please

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New Canal des Ardennes closure 01 Jul 2022 19:24 #130416

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New Canal des Ardennes closure 01 Jul 2022 15:57 #130414

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The article was about the canal de la meuse brom Belgium to Toul. The author did get there in the end and we will try to do the same.

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New Canal des Ardennes closure 01 Jul 2022 15:49 #130412

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It said there would be an update if the situation changes. I imagine that would require a fair amount of more rain in that area. There may be an additional problem of water tightness in some areas, though don't quote me on that.
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New Canal des Ardennes closure 01 Jul 2022 14:37 #130411

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Tim, are your comments about weed for the Canal des Ardennes or the Meuse or both? We were planning on going to Reims via the Ardennes in late July, but are now thinking of continuing down the Meuse. I think we can get reasonable water information via the Avis but they don't talk about weed

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New Canal des Ardennes closure 01 Jul 2022 14:13 #130410

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If we get rain like the deluge last July then I dont think they would have a shortage of water, but then there is the problem of weed.

We are here in Dinant and after much discussion between the boats about three quarters of the dozen boats here turned around and went back north.

I also got a new copy of the owners association newsletter of my dutch cruiser this morning and there is a report in it with photos from June 22. The person said the weed was so bad that they had to cruise through the worst of it in neutral applying power only in the clearer parts. That plus a lot of swimming to clear the weeds from the propeller. They were advised in Verdun to push for Nancy and then transit out of France back to NL via the Mosel and Rhine/Koblenz. The article concluded that there are perhaps 2 more years left before the canals silt up and they are lost for Dutch Cruisers. The VNF said that 10 days after the weed cutter is finished they have regrown back to how they were before. There are about 300 boat owners who get this newsletter and almost all of them Dutch who are usually not timid about which waterways they take. This has been a consistent theme with everyone we have met on the river since Maasbract. There look to be a lot fewer boats on the canals in the future.

I think it was Oscar Wilde who said that rumours of my death are greatly exaggerated and perhaps that is true here, but perhaps it is time for some hard decisions at the VNF. If they abandoned perhaps half the network, then they could focus their limited resources on the other half and there could be a few routes available. Though that would be a big loss, it would be better than losing the entire network which is where their customers in the netherlands seem to think things are headed. With little traffic this could become a self fulfilling prophesy.


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New Canal des Ardennes closure 01 Jul 2022 10:36 #130407

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I have read the Avis and noticed that there is no end date relating to it. Is there anyway of finding out or is the concensus of opinion that the canal will be closed for the length of the summer.

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New Canal des Ardennes closure 30 Jun 2022 16:44 #130402

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You could try calling Pont a Bar Services to verify. The number on their fuel receipt is 03 24 54 01 50.

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New Canal des Ardennes closure 30 Jun 2022 09:04 #130386

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Tim Cahill-O'Brien wrote: Thanks Sharon,

Do you think they will allow us to transit the first two locks from the Meuse to get diesel at the Pont a bar fuel station you mentioned?

Tim


As far as I can see it the. closure is from lock 5 -1 summit 1- 26 , www.pontabarnautisme.fr/ is between lock 6/7 , they have a hire fleet so I would expect them to stay open.

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New Canal des Ardennes closure 30 Jun 2022 08:00 #130385

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We are due to launch at Pont-a-Bar next week, can anyone suggest a slipway west of Ecluse 26 please.

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New Canal des Ardennes closure 30 Jun 2022 08:00 #130384

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Thanks Sharon,

Do you think they will allow us to transit the first two locks from the Meuse to get diesel at the Pont a bar fuel station you mentioned?

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New Canal des Ardennes closure 29 Jun 2022 17:11 #130373

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I just received an AVIS from VNF that due to insufficiency of water the Canal des Ardennes will close on 7/1 between lock 5 and lock 26. Everyone in the system is urged to leave via Pont au Bar or Attigny as soon as quickly as possible. The AVIS if FR/2022/03766
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