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Mast 15 Jan 2014 11:54 #52655

Re the lowering and raising of mast under way it was some time ago and had a quick look but no success so when I have more time will search and see if can find again John 


On 14 January 2014 23:40, DBA Forum (SB) - Jacques Burgalat <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.> wrote:


John Mackay wrote: you tube has a clip of a Tjalk on a canal under sail lowering a counterbalanced mast under full sail passing under a bridge by it's own momentum then raising it the other side very impressive.





John,  I'd love to see that YouTube clip. How did you find it? When I brought Neeltje up from Fort Lauderdale to Saint Augustine, I had to wait for 37 bridge openings to get her here with her mast up (I had yet to install the electric winch, and my "crew" was as old and easily winded as me).




Sandra, the thought of sailing a Tjalk on the Thames would give most people a migraine. If you only plan to putter a her, why not leave the mast down for the time being?

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Mast 15 Jan 2014 01:54 #52651

Mea culpa, Sandra, I didn't pick-up on the original post date, and I'm glad you've sorted things out since then. I just happened to come across your post whilst looking to see if others had found quicker, more efficient ways to drop and raise their mast while under sail.
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On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 7:04 PM, DBA Forum (SB) - Sandra Simeone <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.> wrote:



Hi Jacques,

I am a little surprised to see the interest in a comment I posted over 6 months ago. Yours is the 3rd reply today!  I think my comment may have been somehow re-posted.

Incidentally, we actually found a wonderful skipper in the form of my neighbour who was more than able to assist and advise us on all things mast-like...well all things boat-like actually.  We managed two trips on the Thames, both of which had their share of challenges, but were good fun nevertheless.

I will be looking forward to some more trips as the weather gets better, but thanks for your interest. 

RegardsSandra

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 11:40 PM, DBA Forum (SB) - Jacques Burgalat <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.> wrote:

John Mackay wrote: you tube has a clip of a Tjalk on a canal under sail lowering a counterbalanced mast under full sail passing under a bridge by it's own momentum then raising it the other side very impressive.


John,  I'd love to see that YouTube clip. How did you find it? When I brought Neeltje up from Fort Lauderdale to Saint Augustine, I had to wait for 37 bridge openings to get her here with her mast up (I had yet to install the electric winch, and my "crew" was as old and easily winded as me).

Sandra, the thought of sailing a Tjalk on the Thames would give most people a migraine. If you only plan to putter a her, why not leave the mast down for the time being?

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Mast 15 Jan 2014 01:04 #52650

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Hi Jacques,
I am a little surprised to see the interest in a comment I posted over 6 months ago. Yours is the 3rd reply today!  I think my comment may have been somehow re-posted.

Incidentally, we actually found a wonderful skipper in the form of my neighbour who was more than able to assist and advise us on all things mast-like...well all things boat-like actually.  We managed two trips on the Thames, both of which had their share of challenges, but were good fun nevertheless.

I will be looking forward to some more trips as the weather gets better, but thanks for your interest. 
RegardsSandra




On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 11:40 PM, DBA Forum (SB) - Jacques Burgalat <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.> wrote:


John Mackay wrote: you tube has a clip of a Tjalk on a canal under sail lowering a counterbalanced mast under full sail passing under a bridge by it's own momentum then raising it the other side very impressive.





John,  I'd love to see that YouTube clip. How did you find it? When I brought Neeltje up from Fort Lauderdale to Saint Augustine, I had to wait for 37 bridge openings to get her here with her mast up (I had yet to install the electric winch, and my "crew" was as old and easily winded as me).




Sandra, the thought of sailing a Tjalk on the Thames would give most people a migraine. If you only plan to putter a her, why not leave the mast down for the time being?







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Mast 15 Jan 2014 00:40 #52649

John Mackay wrote: you tube has a clip of a Tjalk on a canal under sail lowering a counterbalanced mast under full sail passing under a bridge by it's own momentum then raising it the other side very impressive.


John, I'd love to see that YouTube clip. How did you find it? When I brought Neeltje up from Fort Lauderdale to Saint Augustine, I had to wait for 37 bridge openings to get her here with her mast up (I had yet to install the electric winch, and my "crew" was as old and easily winded as me).

Sandra, the thought of sailing a Tjalk on the Thames would give most people a migraine. If you only plan to putter a her, why not leave the mast down for the time being?

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Mast 14 Jan 2014 19:39 #52641

you tube has a clip of a Tjalk on a canal under sail lowering a counterbalanced mast under full sail passing under a bridge by it's own momentum then raising it the other side very impressive.My mast is 19 metres non counterbalanced  and a 15 man rugby team raised it in 11 minutes on an 8 fold purchase on a sponsored event before I bought her but my record is 75 minutes on my own, pre an illness, but took aspirin in anticipation of heart attack and was glad to go on deck to check the rigging but the boom I can do alone by swinging the aft end when slightly raised and lowering clear then lifting it out of the gooseneck on the sail halyard with a pulley attached to the gunwale which I take in as I lower the halyard so the boom sits to one side clear of the mast.
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On 14 January 2014 16:50, DBA Forum (SB) - Jacques Burgalat <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.> wrote:



My mast is atypical. It was cut off at the base of the roof-mounted tabernacle to allow for a minimum 7-foot ceiling height throughout (except for the forward anchor room which is deck level). The previous owner used the anchor winch and a cantilever to raise and lower the mast by it's forestay, but that was more labor-intensive than I could handle solo, so I installed a remote-controlled electric winch in front of the anchor winch that allows me to progressively lower or raise the mast in less than 2 minutes, while making sure that the rigging doesn't get caught-up on anything.




Fully lowering the mast to it's cradle still requires two people to unhook the boom and lay it aside, but this setup allows me to slip under many of our draw bridges without waiting for an opening. I've never dealt with a counterweighted mast, so I don't know if they can be raised and lowered manually by one person, but being able to do so while clearing the rigging at the same time could be a plus.

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Mast 14 Jan 2014 17:50 #52635

My mast is atypical. It was cut off at the base of the roof-mounted tabernacle to allow for a minimum 7-foot ceiling height throughout (except for the forward anchor room which is deck level). The previous owner used the anchor winch and a cantilever to raise and lower the mast by it's forestay, but that was more labor-intensive than I could handle solo, so I installed a remote-controlled electric winch in front of the anchor winch that allows me to progressively lower or raise the mast in less than 2 minutes, while making sure that the rigging doesn't get caught-up on anything.

Fully lowering the mast to it's cradle still requires two people to unhook the boom and lay it aside, but this setup allows me to slip under many of our draw bridges without waiting for an opening. I've never dealt with a counterweighted mast, so I don't know if they can be raised and lowered manually by one person, but being able to do so while clearing the rigging at the same time could be a plus.

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Mast 03 Oct 2013 02:40 #51162

Sorry been out of things for a while, health but I go onto the canal and have to lower and then move my mast each time, favourite way is to moor under a bridge or walkway to a pontoon at high tide, make fast mast to bridge with a length of line that you can surge to lower into tabernacle and aft line able to let go when higher (thats why pontoon easiest) have a coffee whilst tide drops once clear move barge and lower foot into position by line, pin in job done depending on tide hour and a quarter tops.

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Mast 11 May 2013 10:40 #48239

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We are in Staines, so not too far away. Our phone number is 01784 452576. Give me a call and we can sort out a time.
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Hi Tony,

Thanks for the offer. I'm based in Brentford. I don't know if that's near or convenient for you?

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Mast 10 May 2013 19:07 #48223

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Hi Tony,

Thanks for the offer.  I'm based in Brentford.  I don't know if that's near or convenient for you?

Regards

Sandra

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Hi Sandra,

whereabouts are you on the Thames? I may be able to help. Although my saing barge is English, the Humber Keel 'Daybreak', I have helped to raise and lower a few Tjalk masts.

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Hi, I'm looking to take my Tjalk out on the Thames in the next few weeks. However, I need to take down the mast and then put it back up when I get back to my mooring. The crew who brought her across from NL did both in super quick time...just looking at the ropes gives me a migraine! Any advice or tips on what to do?










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Mast 10 May 2013 09:07 #48203

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Hi Sandra,
whereabouts are you on the Thames? I may be able to help. Although my saing barge is English, the Humber Keel 'Daybreak', I have helped to raise and lower a few Tjalk masts.
Tony

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Hi, I'm looking to take my Tjalk out on the Thames in the next few weeks. However, I need to take down the mast and then put it back up when I get back to my mooring. The crew who brought her across from NL did both in super quick time...just looking at the ropes gives me a migraine! Any advice or tips on what to do?

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Hi, I'm looking to take my Tjalk out on the Thames in the next few weeks. However, I need to take down the mast and then put it back up when I get back to my mooring. The crew who brought her across from NL did both in super quick time...just looking at the ropes gives me a migraine! Any advice or tips on what to do?

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