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Fwd: Sailing Barge email 04 Sep 2011 16:24 #31649


Hi Dick
I was planning to take Het Leven home for her 100th next year as well but I
have contracted an ailment that will probably stop that and might mean I
have to sell her but I am waiting to see where I "plateau" with this. If I
am looking for crew I will use the DBA but also if anyone is interested I
will add their email to a list.

I am moving from the Falkirk wheel to Glasgow, 5 hour trip next weekend,
probably Sunday and no not under sail, and have space for 1 or 2 if anyone
interested 4 locks and summit stretch for Forth and Clyde. Coming back on
the 23rd September with 80 plus boats for 10th anniversary of canal re
opening and maybe space on that.
John

On 3 September 2011 23:09, Dick Monk <dick at skutsje.co.uk> wrote:

>
> On 3 Sep 2011, at 17:08, John Mackay wrote:
>
> > Hi not sure of the dates but there is a weeks regatta, I think in
> > June, on
> > the issselmeer
>
> Hello John,
> Between the 28 July and 18 August 2012 there is the two versions of
> Sk?tsjesilen, the annual races of Sk?tsjes in various towns in
> Friesland.
> The "official" SKS version: www.skutsjesilen.nl/
> And the "open" IFKS version: www.ifks.nl/
> Both sites in Dutch of course.
> My boat won three times, but before I was born! I intend to be there
> next year with mine, for its 100th birthday, but purely as a spectator.
> Regards,
> Dick Monk
> Sk?tsje De Gebroeders
>
> Visit www.barges.org for info, events, to buy and sell barges or
> equipment.
> You can manage your list subscription yourself, including unsubscribing and
> retrieving lost passwords at www.barges.org/newsgroups
>



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Fwd: Sailing Barge email 03 Sep 2011 23:59 #31645


Dick,

Many thanks indeed for your recommendation - the dates coincide perfectly with my visit, as luck would have it. After 6 months of no traffic, it's nice to see the Sailing group does actually exist too!

I've been in touch with the shipbuilding museum in Sneek regarding my visit, and can highly recommend their service - very quick replies, flawless English and very useful information.

However, my research on the history of my barge has drawn a blank after 1930, apart from her conversion in 1976-7 (date found, signed by the builders in Maassluis under a drawer in the galley). Does anyone have any experience of researching when barges were brought from Holland to England? The standard of Dutch record-keeping up to the 1930s never seems to have been matched elsewhere.

All good wishes,

Martin
Mooi Maisga

Original Message
From: Dick Monk <dick at skutsje.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 21:55:55
To: <dbasailing at lists.shire.net>
Subject: Re: [Dbasailing] Fwd: Sailing Barge email

Hello Martin,
Nice to see a bit of life in the SBIG group at last!
If you're going to be there in November, you MUST go to www.klassieke-schepen.nl/
? at Enkhuizen the 4/5/6 November.
It's the best boatshow I've ever been to, with loads of beautiful?
classic Dutch sailing vessels and a real enthusiast's ambiance.
And the drive across the Afsluitsdijk from Friesland to Nord Holland?
is spectacular!
Regards,
Dick Monk
Sk?tsje De Gebroeders

On 3 Sep 2011, at 13:20, Martin Ford wrote:

>
> Dear Bob,
>
> It may have been a typo on my part - let's see if this one makes it?
> through!
>
> Many thanks for the crewing offer. I may well take you up on that at?
> some point. The last year has mainly been spent doing various bits?
> of work to the barge, and sailing has slipped down the list?
> somewhat. We're moored at Tower Bridge Moorings (opposite Hermitage?
> Moorings), and have booked for some barge-handling tuition on the?
> tidal Thames in a couple of weeks time. As I'm still very?
> inexperienced, all help is gratefully received, especially as our?
> insurance with (Geoff Bradshaw) still requires an experienced?
> skipper to be on board. I've no plans to take that clause out until?
> I'm rather more confident. I'll keep you posted.
>
> Incidentally, I've arranged a trip to IJlst in Friesland (near?
> Sneek) in November, to see where Mooi Maisga was built. If any?
> members have any advice on places to visit in that area, I'd be very?
> grateful. So far Sneek Shipbuilding museum is on the agenda. I'm?
> also happy to pick up documents from their library (or other quick?
> bits of research) if that is of any use to anyone.
>
> All good wishes,
>
> Martin
>
> 'Mooi Maisga'
> Tower Bridge Moorings
> London SE1 2AX
>
>
>> From: bobandbobbie at mac.com
>> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:47:36 +0200
>> To: dbasailing at lists.shire.net
>> Subject: [Dbasailing] Fwd: Sailing Barge email
>>
>> Martin,
>>
>> I have checked your subscription details and can see no reason why?
>> you have experienced difficulty posting to DBA Sailing. I believe I?
>> have dealt with the reason Andy was having difficulty and am?
>> writing this to the list to check it works for me!
>>
>> There has been no traffic on Sailing for many months so it is good?
>> to see it re-activated now. I wish you well with your barge and?
>> hope you may be able to help Jess in the way you suggest. Should?
>> either of you seek crew to sail your barges I would love you to?
>> consider me. Our barge has a big motor and no sticks and rags!!!
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> Bob Marsland
>> Navigation & Sailing List Administrator
>>
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Visit www.barges.org for info, events, to buy and sell?
>> barges or equipment.?
>>
>> You can manage your list subscription yourself, including?
>> unsubscribing and retrieving lost passwords at www.barges.org/newsgroups
>???????????????????????????????????
>
> Visit www.barges.org for info, events, to buy and sell barges?
> or equipment.?
> You can manage your list subscription yourself, including?
> unsubscribing and retrieving lost passwords at www.barges.org/newsgroups

Visit www.barges.org for info, events, to buy and sell barges or equipment.?
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Fwd: Sailing Barge email 03 Sep 2011 23:29 #31643



On 3 Sep 2011, at 11:47, Bob Marsland wrote:

> ...Should either of you seek crew to sail your barges I would love
> you to consider me. Our barge has a big motor and no sticks and
> rags!!!

Hello Bob,
As mentioned in my reply to John Mackay, I'm planning on visiting
Friesland next year from early July to early September.
Will do a round trip from my mooring near Namur, doing the Meuse/Maas,
the IJssel, the IJsselmeer, Friesland, the Waddenzee, Nord Holland,
Amsterdam, Utrecht, Gorinchem, Antwerp and then back to Namur via
northern Belgium.
Should give plenty of opportunity to get the sails up, so let me know
if you're interested in joining for a part.
Regards,
Dick Monk
Sk?tsje De Gebroeders

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Fwd: Sailing Barge email 03 Sep 2011 23:09 #31642



On 3 Sep 2011, at 17:08, John Mackay wrote:

> Hi not sure of the dates but there is a weeks regatta, I think in
> June, on
> the issselmeer

Hello John,
Between the 28 July and 18 August 2012 there is the two versions of
Sk?tsjesilen, the annual races of Sk?tsjes in various towns in
Friesland.
The "official" SKS version: www.skutsjesilen.nl/
And the "open" IFKS version: www.ifks.nl/
Both sites in Dutch of course.
My boat won three times, but before I was born! I intend to be there
next year with mine, for its 100th birthday, but purely as a spectator.
Regards,
Dick Monk
Sk?tsje De Gebroeders

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Fwd: Sailing Barge email 03 Sep 2011 22:55 #31641


Hello Martin,
Nice to see a bit of life in the SBIG group at last!
If you're going to be there in November, you MUST go to www.klassieke-schepen.nl/
at Enkhuizen the 4/5/6 November.
It's the best boatshow I've ever been to, with loads of beautiful
classic Dutch sailing vessels and a real enthusiast's ambiance.
And the drive across the Afsluitsdijk from Friesland to Nord Holland
is spectacular!
Regards,
Dick Monk
Sk?tsje De Gebroeders

On 3 Sep 2011, at 13:20, Martin Ford wrote:

>
> Dear Bob,
>
> It may have been a typo on my part - let's see if this one makes it
> through!
>
> Many thanks for the crewing offer. I may well take you up on that at
> some point. The last year has mainly been spent doing various bits
> of work to the barge, and sailing has slipped down the list
> somewhat. We're moored at Tower Bridge Moorings (opposite Hermitage
> Moorings), and have booked for some barge-handling tuition on the
> tidal Thames in a couple of weeks time. As I'm still very
> inexperienced, all help is gratefully received, especially as our
> insurance with (Geoff Bradshaw) still requires an experienced
> skipper to be on board. I've no plans to take that clause out until
> I'm rather more confident. I'll keep you posted.
>
> Incidentally, I've arranged a trip to IJlst in Friesland (near
> Sneek) in November, to see where Mooi Maisga was built. If any
> members have any advice on places to visit in that area, I'd be very
> grateful. So far Sneek Shipbuilding museum is on the agenda. I'm
> also happy to pick up documents from their library (or other quick
> bits of research) if that is of any use to anyone.
>
> All good wishes,
>
> Martin
>
> 'Mooi Maisga'
> Tower Bridge Moorings
> London SE1 2AX
>
>
>> From: bobandbobbie at mac.com
>> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:47:36 +0200
>> To: dbasailing at lists.shire.net
>> Subject: [Dbasailing] Fwd: Sailing Barge email
>>
>> Martin,
>>
>> I have checked your subscription details and can see no reason why
>> you have experienced difficulty posting to DBA Sailing. I believe I
>> have dealt with the reason Andy was having difficulty and am
>> writing this to the list to check it works for me!
>>
>> There has been no traffic on Sailing for many months so it is good
>> to see it re-activated now. I wish you well with your barge and
>> hope you may be able to help Jess in the way you suggest. Should
>> either of you seek crew to sail your barges I would love you to
>> consider me. Our barge has a big motor and no sticks and rags!!!
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> Bob Marsland
>> Navigation & Sailing List Administrator
>>
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Visit www.barges.org for info, events, to buy and sell
>> barges or equipment.
>>
>> You can manage your list subscription yourself, including
>> unsubscribing and retrieving lost passwords at www.barges.org/newsgroups
>
>
> Visit www.barges.org for info, events, to buy and sell barges
> or equipment.
> You can manage your list subscription yourself, including
> unsubscribing and retrieving lost passwords at www.barges.org/newsgroups


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Fwd: Sailing Barge email 03 Sep 2011 16:08 #31627


Hi not sure of the dates but there is a weeks regatta, I think in June, on
the issselmeer and if you want I could email Michel whom I bought my Tjalk
from to see if he has any contacts for tjalk training as he used Het Leven
for charter with sail training included.

As regards actual sailing mine handles well under sail and as long as you
accept that you go where wind, sea and swell allow is no problem with 2
crew, 3 if gusting, but I've had her under full sail in a 6 gusting up and
handles well as long as the sea doesn't have a long run as I worry about the
strain on the leeboards with side sea or swell so alter course to take it on
the quarter.

Went outer Clyde and Western Isles up to Oban then to the Caledonian Canal
and the Great Lochs and the modern yachts going to the same event couldn't
catch us with a following wind
so quite impressive for a 99 year old, anyone know if she will get a
telegram from the Queen next year.

Afraid not brilliant close hauled but has anyone tried adding a gaff topsail
to see if it improves tacking like bermudan gaff rig.
Regards

John
On 3 September 2011 12:20, Martin Ford <ma.ford at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Dear Bob,
>
> It may have been a typo on my part - let's see if this one makes it
> through!
>
> Many thanks for the crewing offer. I may well take you up on that at some
> point. The last year has mainly been spent doing various bits of work to the
> barge, and sailing has slipped down the list somewhat. We're moored at Tower
> Bridge Moorings (opposite Hermitage Moorings), and have booked for some
> barge-handling tuition on the tidal Thames in a couple of weeks time. As I'm
> still very inexperienced, all help is gratefully received, especially as our
> insurance with (Geoff Bradshaw) still requires an experienced skipper to be
> on board. I've no plans to take that clause out until I'm rather more
> confident. I'll keep you posted.
>
> Incidentally, I've arranged a trip to IJlst in Friesland (near Sneek) in
> November, to see where Mooi Maisga was built. If any members have any advice
> on places to visit in that area, I'd be very grateful. So far Sneek
> Shipbuilding museum is on the agenda. I'm also happy to pick up documents
> from their library (or other quick bits of research) if that is of any use
> to anyone.
>
> All good wishes,
>
> Martin
>
> 'Mooi Maisga'
> Tower Bridge Moorings
> London SE1 2AX
>
>
> > From: bobandbobbie at mac.com
> > Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:47:36 +0200
> > To: dbasailing at lists.shire.net
> > Subject: [Dbasailing] Fwd: Sailing Barge email
> >
> > Martin,
> >
> > I have checked your subscription details and can see no reason why you
> have experienced difficulty posting to DBA Sailing. I believe I have dealt
> with the reason Andy was having difficulty and am writing this to the list
> to check it works for me!
> >
> > There has been no traffic on Sailing for many months so it is good to see
> it re-activated now. I wish you well with your barge and hope you may be
> able to help Jess in the way you suggest. Should either of you seek crew to
> sail your barges I would love you to consider me. Our barge has a big motor
> and no sticks and rags!!!
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > Bob Marsland
> > Navigation & Sailing List Administrator
> >
> >
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > > From: Andy Soper <soper.andy at gmail.com>
> > > Date: 3 September 2011 11:23:34 CEST
> > > To: Martin Ford <ma.ford at hotmail.co.uk>
> > > Cc: "bob. marsland" <bob.marsland at barges.org>, "julian. tether" <
> julian.tether at barges.org>
> > > Subject: Re: Sailing Barge email
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Martin,
> > >
> > > Thanks for responding to Jessica. I have been having problems posting
> to the list as well! That might be a contributory factor to the low mail
> rate!
> > >
> > > Best Wishes
> > >
> > > Andy Soper
> > >
> > > Mv Neeltje
> > > Cormorant
> > > Spade Oak Reach
> > > Cookham
> > > Berkshire SL6 9RQ
> > >
> > > +44 (0)7940598364 or +44 (0)1628 850576
> > >
> > > DBA - The Barge Association
> > > "You don't need a barge to join - a dream of barging in Europe will
> do!"
> > > See www.barges.org
> > >
> > > On 3 Sep 2011, at 08:21, "Martin Ford " <ma.ford at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Dear Andy,
> > >>
> > >> Perhaps it's just my computer, but it didn't seem to like responding
> to the sailing group email address. Anyway, I've sent Jess a reply direct -
> I've only had my barge for just over a year, so I've offered advice from
> someone at the start of the learning curve!
> > >>
> > >> Incidentally, I think this is the first post on the sailing barge
> group I've had since I signed up 6 months ago. Have I missed other postings,
> or is it just not very active?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Martin Ford
> > >>
> > >> 'Mooi Maisga'
> > >> Tower Bridge Moorings,
> > >> 31 Mill Street,
> > >> London
> > >> SE1 2AX
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
> > Visit www.barges.org for info, events, to buy and sell barges or
> equipment.
> > You can manage your list subscription yourself, including unsubscribing
> and retrieving lost passwords at www.barges.org/newsgroups
>
>
> Visit www.barges.org for info, events, to buy and sell barges or
> equipment.
> You can manage your list subscription yourself, including unsubscribing and
> retrieving lost passwords at www.barges.org/newsgroups
>



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Financial Services Authority
Registered in Scotland SC85559
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Fwd: Sailing Barge email 03 Sep 2011 12:20 #31626



Dear Bob,

It may have been a typo on my part - let's see if this one makes it through!

Many thanks for the crewing offer. I may well take you up on that at some point. The last year has mainly been spent doing various bits of work to the barge, and sailing has slipped down the list somewhat. We're moored at Tower Bridge Moorings (opposite Hermitage Moorings), and have booked for some barge-handling tuition on the tidal Thames in a couple of weeks time. As I'm still very inexperienced, all help is gratefully received, especially as our insurance with (Geoff Bradshaw) still requires an experienced skipper to be on board. I've no plans to take that clause out until I'm rather more confident. I'll keep you posted.

Incidentally, I've arranged a trip to IJlst in Friesland (near Sneek) in November, to see where Mooi Maisga was built. If any members have any advice on places to visit in that area, I'd be very grateful. So far Sneek Shipbuilding museum is on the agenda. I'm also happy to pick up documents from their library (or other quick bits of research) if that is of any use to anyone.

All good wishes,

Martin

'Mooi Maisga'
Tower Bridge Moorings
London SE1 2AX


> From: bobandbobbie at mac.com
> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 11:47:36 +0200
> To: dbasailing at lists.shire.net
> Subject: [Dbasailing] Fwd: Sailing Barge email
>
> Martin,
>
> I have checked your subscription details and can see no reason why you have experienced difficulty posting to DBA Sailing. I believe I have dealt with the reason Andy was having difficulty and am writing this to the list to check it works for me!
>
> There has been no traffic on Sailing for many months so it is good to see it re-activated now. I wish you well with your barge and hope you may be able to help Jess in the way you suggest. Should either of you seek crew to sail your barges I would love you to consider me. Our barge has a big motor and no sticks and rags!!!
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Bob
>
> Bob Marsland
> Navigation & Sailing List Administrator
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> > From: Andy Soper <soper.andy at gmail.com>
> > Date: 3 September 2011 11:23:34 CEST
> > To: Martin Ford <ma.ford at hotmail.co.uk>
> > Cc: "bob. marsland" <bob.marsland at barges.org>, "julian. tether" <julian.tether at barges.org>
> > Subject: Re: Sailing Barge email
> >
> >
> > Hello Martin,
> >
> > Thanks for responding to Jessica. I have been having problems posting to the list as well! That might be a contributory factor to the low mail rate!
> >
> > Best Wishes
> >
> > Andy Soper
> >
> > Mv Neeltje
> > Cormorant
> > Spade Oak Reach
> > Cookham
> > Berkshire SL6 9RQ
> >
> > +44 (0)7940598364 or +44 (0)1628 850576
> >
> > DBA - The Barge Association
> > "You don't need a barge to join - a dream of barging in Europe will do!"
> > See www.barges.org
> >
> > On 3 Sep 2011, at 08:21, "Martin Ford " <ma.ford at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Andy,
> >>
> >> Perhaps it's just my computer, but it didn't seem to like responding to the sailing group email address. Anyway, I've sent Jess a reply direct - I've only had my barge for just over a year, so I've offered advice from someone at the start of the learning curve!
> >>
> >> Incidentally, I think this is the first post on the sailing barge group I've had since I signed up 6 months ago. Have I missed other postings, or is it just not very active?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Martin Ford
> >>
> >> 'Mooi Maisga'
> >> Tower Bridge Moorings,
> >> 31 Mill Street,
> >> London
> >> SE1 2AX
> >>
>
>
>
> Visit www.barges.org for info, events, to buy and sell barges or equipment.
> You can manage your list subscription yourself, including unsubscribing and retrieving lost passwords at www.barges.org/newsgroups


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Fwd: Sailing Barge email 03 Sep 2011 10:47 #31625

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Martin,

I have checked your subscription details and can see no reason why you have experienced difficulty posting to DBA Sailing. I believe I have dealt with the reason Andy was having difficulty and am writing this to the list to check it works for me!

There has been no traffic on Sailing for many months so it is good to see it re-activated now. I wish you well with your barge and hope you may be able to help Jess in the way you suggest. Should either of you seek crew to sail your barges I would love you to consider me. Our barge has a big motor and no sticks and rags!!!

Best wishes,

Bob

Bob Marsland
Navigation & Sailing List Administrator



Begin forwarded message:

> From: Andy Soper <soper.andy at gmail.com>
> Date: 3 September 2011 11:23:34 CEST
> To: Martin Ford <ma.ford at hotmail.co.uk>
> Cc: "bob. marsland" <bob.marsland at barges.org>, "julian. tether" <julian.tether at barges.org>
> Subject: Re: Sailing Barge email
>
>
> Hello Martin,
>
> Thanks for responding to Jessica. I have been having problems posting to the list as well! That might be a contributory factor to the low mail rate!
>
> Best Wishes
>
> Andy Soper
>
> Mv Neeltje
> Cormorant
> Spade Oak Reach
> Cookham
> Berkshire SL6 9RQ
>
> +44 (0)7940598364 or +44 (0)1628 850576
>
> DBA - The Barge Association
> "You don't need a barge to join - a dream of barging in Europe will do!"
> See www.barges.org
>
> On 3 Sep 2011, at 08:21, "Martin Ford " <ma.ford at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Dear Andy,
>>
>> Perhaps it's just my computer, but it didn't seem to like responding to the sailing group email address. Anyway, I've sent Jess a reply direct - I've only had my barge for just over a year, so I've offered advice from someone at the start of the learning curve!
>>
>> Incidentally, I think this is the first post on the sailing barge group I've had since I signed up 6 months ago. Have I missed other postings, or is it just not very active?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Martin Ford
>>
>> 'Mooi Maisga'
>> Tower Bridge Moorings,
>> 31 Mill Street,
>> London
>> SE1 2AX
>>



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